Yale psychiatrist explains the
root of Trump’s ‘pathological racism’
On Monday morning,
President Donald Trump once again escalated his conflict with “the Squad,” the
group of freshman Congresswomen of color he told to go back to their own
countries.
Although moderate Republicans had hoped last week that the President would tone down his remarks, on Monday he once again doubled down on Twitter.
Although moderate Republicans had hoped last week that the President would tone down his remarks, on Monday he once again doubled down on Twitter.
“The “Squad” is a very
Racist group of troublemakers who are young, inexperienced, and not very smart.
They are pulling the once great Democrat Party far left, and were against
humanitarian aid at the Border…And are now against ICE and Homeland Security.
So bad for our Country!” he tweeted.
The
“Squad” is a very Racist group of troublemakers who are young, inexperienced,
and not very smart. They are pulling the once great Democrat Party far left,
and were against humanitarian aid at the Border...And are now against ICE and
Homeland Security. So bad for our Country!
The feud between the
junior lawmakers and Trump continues to hog the limelight, even as Democratic
presidential candidates try to break through.
Raw Story spoke with
Yale psychiatrist Dr. Bandy X. Lee about why the president can’t stop himself
from attacking the young women. Lee is a forensic psychiatrist and an expert on
violence at Yale School of Medicine.
She helped launch a
public health approach to global violence prevention as a consultant to the
World Health Organization and other United Nations bodies since 2002.
She is author of the
textbook, “Violence: An Interdisciplinary Approach to Causes, Consequences, and
Cures,” president of the World Mental Health Coalition, and editor of the New
York Times bestseller, “The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 37 Psychiatrists
and Mental Health Experts Assess a President.”
She and her coauthors
recently prepared a mental health analysis of the Mueller report with
recommendations (for more information, visit:
dangerouscase.org).
Raw Story: It has been a week submerged in Donald Trump’s racist remarks. You yourself got wrapped up in the controversy.
Dr. Bandy X. Lee: I
believe people thought I was giving excuse to Donald Trump’s racism, when I was
trying to add another layer. As a psychiatrist, I will see different things.
What is medically salient is not always evident to the average person, while
ideology or political position may not be as interesting to me as a medical
professional.
When appropriate, the
medical layer should give depth to our understanding and, in fact, seriousness
to this situation. We as a nation consistently underestimate the dangers. No
matter how we may say we already know the president is dangerous, we will lack
the appreciation of just how dangerous.
Raw Story: So you believe Mr.
Trump is racist?
Dr. Bandy X. Lee: Surely
he is racist, but that is not all. When he says, “I am the least racist person
you have ever met,” he tells me that he is surely the most racist person I have
ever met.
In psychiatry, we are trained not simply to believe a person’s words at face value but to evaluate the person’s reliability, whether there are consistent patterns of defense, and whether it is the person or the disease that is speaking, before we believe.
In psychiatry, we are trained not simply to believe a person’s words at face value but to evaluate the person’s reliability, whether there are consistent patterns of defense, and whether it is the person or the disease that is speaking, before we believe.
Mr. Trump’s patterns
indicate that when he says others are “hate-filled extremists who are
constantly trying to tear our country down,” he actually means, “I am a
hate-filled extremist constantly trying to tear this country down.”
When he says,
“Presidential harassment!” he is describing harassment that the president metes
out.
And his statement,
“Their comments are helping fuel the rise of a dangerous, militant hard left,”
is an admission that his comments are doing this of the militant hard right.
The reason why the attribution is uncannily correct is because the mind is not random: the unconscious mind knows exactly what one is doing, even as the conscious mind denies it.
The reason why the attribution is uncannily correct is because the mind is not random: the unconscious mind knows exactly what one is doing, even as the conscious mind denies it.
Since psychiatry is
science- and evidence-based—not subjective the way people assume—we also look
at evidence and not words. That his father was arrested at a KKK march makes it
likely that his family influence was racist.
His trying hard to have
“the Central Park five” executed, regardless of guilt, shows that he grew up to
be racist. The fact that the FBI investigated him and his father for racist
renting practices is another piece of information. His inspiration of waves of
race-based hate crimes and white nationalist terrorism is still another.
Hence, we know that his
birtherism was not about Barack Obama’s birthplace but about race, just as his
tweets that the four congresswomen “go back to where you came from” was not
about their actual country but about their race.
But beyond this, racism
can serve as a receptacle for pathological hate, envy, and vengefulness. Some
who hold racist views may still be capable of empathy, or act out of
loyalty—and they can be educated or redirected.
Mr. Trump lacks this
capacity and will likely be recalcitrant. And if other channels are open, he
will probably direct his anger and envy there, too—against critics, women,
children, disabled persons, or any other representation of his feelings of
inferiority and unbelonging.
Raw Story: And he has
demonstrated all these things.
Dr. Bandy X. Lee:
Pathological racism is different than ordinary racism, and equating the two is
a source of our gross underestimation. That people would have a hard time
admitting that he is racist, for example, is what we would expect from
pathological racism.
That many would pick up
and espouse his views, rather than denounce them according to custom, is also a
phenomenon we see. It is a characteristic of pathology to engulf those
surrounding the afflicted person and to turn racism into reason, and reason
into racism—or insanity into sanity, and vice versa.
This is what I see when a special counsel has trouble indicting the most indictable president there ever was. Pathological extremity is menacing, as well as beguiling.
So it is not an
either-or situation. Racism is bad, but the combination of racism and mental
pathology is worse. Criminality is bad, but criminality and mental incapacity
together make one more dangerous.
Mental impairment can be
exonerating, but sometimes it is otherwise: we see how Mr. Trump’s impairments
in some areas make him masterful in others. These issues need to be considered
separately and simultaneously.