Did
Trump get caught ordering a hit on his ambassador to Ukraine?
Igor Fruman and
Lev Parnas (second and third from left) with President Donald Trump and Rudy
Giuliani. (Photo: Grant Stern via Twitter)
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An audio recording reviewed by ABC News captured President Donald Trump demanding the ouster of then-U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch during a 2018 dinner with a group of associates that included Lev Parnas, the indicted businessman Trump has repeatedly claimed not to know.
"Get rid of her!" Trump
said in the recording, ABC reported Friday. "Get her out
tomorrow. I don't care. Get her out tomorrow. Take her out. Okay? Do it."
The president's outburst came after
Parnas, an associate of Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, recommended
that Trump fire Yovanovitch. Parnas, according to ABC, told Trump
in the recording that the ambassdor was "basically walking around telling
everybody, 'Wait, he's gonna get impeached, just wait.'"
"The biggest problem there, I
think where we need to start is we gotta get rid of the ambassador,"
Parnas said. "She's still left over from the Clinton administration."
A copy of the recording is now in
the possession of federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New
York, ABC reported.
Trump eventually recalled Yovanovitch from her post in April of 2019. Yovanovitch told House impeachment investigators in sworn testimony last October that her firing was the result of a "concerted campaign" of smears directed by Giuliani.
In a column Friday, the Washington
Post's Greg Sargent wrote that "it's worth noting here how bat-bleep
insane it is that Trump, who has the power to recall ambassadors, is talking
with his goons about this."
"Remember that Giuliani
launched an epic smear campaign to hound her out of office," Sargent
noted. "Trump finally did remove the ambassador, but if there were
legitimate reasons to do so, why this secretive campaign against her?"
Former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner
told Sargent that the Southern District of New York could be looking "into
a conspiracy to do something to Yovanovitch."
"SDNY is or should be looking
at all of this," Kirschner said.
Joseph Bondy, Parnas'
attorney, told The Daily Beast Friday
that the recording reviewed by ABC was made by Igor Fruman,
another associate of Giuliani. Fruman and Parnas, who helped Giuliani pressure Ukraine to
investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, were arrested and charged with
campaign violations at the same time last October.
"Last year, before he was
arrested, Mr. Parnas personally heard a recording of his April 30, 2018, dinner
with the president and others, made by Mr. Fruman, at which the subject of
Ambassador Yovanovitch was discussed," Bondy told The Daily Beast.
"We have hoped that, to the extent this recording still existed, it would
be released to Congress for use in the impeachment trial."
Trump has said he does not know
Parnas or Fruman, a claim contradicted by the dinner recording and photos of
the men together that have circulated in recent months.
"I don't know those
gentlemen," Trump said of Parnas and Fruman last October
following their arrest. "Now, it's possible I have a picture with them
because I have a picture with everybody."
In a series of explosive interviews with MSNBC that
aired last week, Parnas disputed Trump's claim that his efforts in Ukraine were
geared toward rooting out corruption rather than advancing his own personal
political agenda.
"It was all about Joe Biden,
Hunter Biden," Parnas said, referring to the former vice president's son.
"President Trump knew exactly what was going on. He was aware of all of my
movements. I wouldn't do anything without the consent of Rudy Giuliani or the
president."